FRCFoamies Boeing X - 32 "Guppy" Parkjet

Discussion in 'FRCFoamies Plans' started by F1wanabe, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. bogusbandit56

    bogusbandit56 Top Gun

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    So the Norwegians have been suckered into buying that bag of shite as well. We would have been better off keeping our Harriers.
     
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  2. CeeKay

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    Looks amazing. Very interested to see how this one goes.
     
  3. Airflow

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    Yup, Harrier is a good plane, but Norway will get the F-35 standard version, which I think is the best of the three. But the Norwegians are not so cocky anymore, (I am actually partly Norwegian myself ...a few genes;) And my fiancee... 100% Norwegian...) the Gripen, Typhoon, EF can easily do figure eights around a fat and heavy F-35 ...:rolleyes: A shame:( but true, the West needs a strong United States!:) with alot of functioning efficient and reliable fighter aircrafts like in the good old days... :cool: We are unable to take out Russia ourselves.:eek:
     
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  4. F1wanabe

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    Haha, that looks like a kit from hobbyking!
     
  5. F1wanabe

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    We'll be doing an official Remix plan which will add more stability than we get by simply removing the lower fuselage, but for now, I love it with the 40 second mod!
     
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  6. jacktores69

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    I did the sim download and wow what an eye opener. its harder than i thought but im getting the hang of it.
     
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  7. F1wanabe

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    Very thorough edf modification, Darren! My 70mm put out 40 oz thrust. If you're getting about that then you should be ok. My guess is you are at about 30 oz or so? Really looking forward to this! This will need every inch of vtail travel since there won't be any prop wash to work with. The plus is vtails have less drag than just elevons. Good luck!
     
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  8. JohnFromOz

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    Hey Flybynight22, that's an excellent guide. Well done!

    I'm hanging out for the DX8 + 8-channel Rx version! After a lot of effort I have a kind-of workable setup on my Guppy but it is clumsy and requires a switch reset in flight, so your DX8 how-to will be really helpful. I think it could translate over to some of the RCP planes as well (v-tails on my F18 V4 would be sweet).

    Cheers, John
     
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  9. bogusbandit56

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    Probably better off with hobby king planes:) Much better off with RCP planes.
     
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  10. bogusbandit56

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    I would rather go into a fight with any of the European planes but I would plump for a Sukhoi if it was my choice:)
     
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  11. bogusbandit56

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    Flyers of the Typhoon and Sukhoi said going into a fight with the F35 was like clubbing baby seals, oh dear.
     
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  12. F1wanabe

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    My guess is that any us pilot would feel safe in an f35, f15, f16, f16 silent eagle, or advanced super eagle. The weapon systems do the fighting these days.
     
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  13. bogusbandit56

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    Yes I agree the F15, F16, and F18 are all very capable aircraft, but would you like to take to the skies in a plane that can`t turn can`t climb, is slow, can`t be flown near thunder storms and is vulnerable to small arms ground fire and may even melt in the rain? A fighter that needs a fighter escort:)
     
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  14. Flybyknight22

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    There is some "stuff" cooking besides the F-35 JSF. We have a few cards we ain't showing yet, just a few but I'm pretty sure those cards are "Willeys". We got your back Baby! OBO won't be POTUS much longer.
     
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    F1 is Exactly Right, as usual.
    Our Pilots feel pretty confident about their chances against pretty much anybody, at least the ones I know and have operated with do.

    Keep in mind that an all out nuclear war makes dog fighting pretty much completely irrelevant.

    Assuming that your not gonna fight the "big one" then what do you realistically need in an aircraft and probably more importantly what can you afford to build in any real quantity?

    The F-35 is stealthy and Stealth still has some major advantages over most potential enemies but the increase in computer power and very low frequency radar is beginning to chip away at that some.

    Quantity of aircraft is also very important as the cost of building large numbers of planes like the F-22 and all the other types is becoming fiscally impossible, hence the concept for a joint strike fighter like the F-35.

    Sustainability, ease of maintenance, rearmament and the ability to forward deploy for long periods of time almost anywhere in the world, without the need for land based airports is an advantage the U.S. has enjoyed for a very long time that virtually no other country on the planet can duplicate,.. yet. The F-35 will be able to do this.

    There is generally an integration of a multitude Of land, sea, air and subsurface assets. Everything from rail guns and advanced lasers on large fixed wing birds to stealth drones and stealth submarine drones. Everybody gets a piece of the combat. In many cases Virtually no U.S. Fighter works alone anymore but has access to a large variety of other platforms who's weapons systems it can also use and vice versa. Everything and virtually everyone is integrated into a total combat system. Even the crappy F-35 JSF fits well into this overall system,.. or at least it will if they can keep the engine from catching on fire or burning holes through the decks of our Amphibs in the VTOL version,. and fix the software,.. and fix a few of the weapons scheduled to be deployed on it and,.. and,.. and or maybe not and if so we will start again from scratch. Personally I am beginning to think that the F-35 might be a deep secret projects Techno Trojan horse virus. We built it hoping the Chinese and Russians might steal it, while we secretly put something else decent together out in the Nevada desert. NAAAA,.. We ain't that smart.
     
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  16. Flybyknight22

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    John,
    Thank you man, I appreciate that.
    I was beginning to think that the DX8 might not be a useful "How To" but you have changed my mind. I will get it cranked out. If it helps just one flyer then it should be worth doing. All I have to do is snapshot the steps and post it up. Wish I had a Turnegy 9x or one I could borrow and do one on that also. I think that would cover most everyone's radio or at least close to it. I know there are guys out there that can do this in there sleep and they most likely think it's a waste of time but I keep seeing this question over and over again. That's why I posted up one for the Devo-10. The same process is virtually identical in the other radios, they just have a few terminology and menu differences but really is very very similar.
    I will get on it.
     
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    Hey Jack!
    Way to go man! I think the simulator will be beneficial, I know it is for me. I use it quite a bit especially if I have had a long lay off from flying. It is not a perfect solution but it can build some muscle memory that should come in handy when it is time to fly the real thing. After awhile you might want to have a look at the full version of ClearView and perhaps Phoenix and or Real Flight. Those versions allow you to dial up adverse weather conditions to make the flying much more challenging. You can crank up cross winds plus fly many different planes, helicopters and even Quads. But even with all those Sims, I still crash from time to time anyway! :(
     
  18. bogusbandit56

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    That concept is fine for the US but for foreign customers it is a waste of time and money . Don`t forget that other countries are pouring billions into this project and want an efficient fighting machine to replace their aging aircraft.
     
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    You are right, no doubt about it, many factors are involved. I am not a huge fan of the F-35, mostly because it is not ready and far behind schedule. I firmly believe that the bulk of its current problems will eventually be resolved but time is not on our side.

    It is a remarkable endeavor and it will be a significant achievement if it can be successfully developed and deployed as an aircraft that is ment to replace multiple other weapons systems. This has never been done before to this extent and that is part of what makes this so incredibly difficult to do.

    An aircraft designed solely to be a fighter will be better at that but suffer greatly in other mission areas. A pure close support aircraft generally has zero dog fighting capabilities, a plane that must be carrier and Amphib based also has it's own set of strengths and weaknesses etc. In addition Aircraft are immensely more expensive than they once were and no country can afford to build all the different types of combat aircraft in the numbers or quality required.
    We begin to see the problem.

    The Harrier while good for its time is short ranged and its avionics are relatively rudimentary and obsolete. The F-35 is a substantial improvement over the Harrier in range, speed, avionics, stealth and weapons systems. The A-10 Warthog on the other hand is perhaps another story.

    The F-35 does not match its loiter time or weapons load carrying capacity but far exceeds it in avionics, speed, stealth and it's potential numbers, plus it can be aircraft carrier and Amphibious ship deployed while the Warthog can not. Allied nations generally do not deploy the Warthog in large numbers so that is a non factor but there definitely is some give and take in replacing the A-10.

    Replacing the venerable F-15 and Hornet is somewhat of a mixed bag. The F-35 has stealth and they do not. This is a huge advantage for the F-35 over those two great and proven aircraft. At long distances you can't shoot what you can't see on radar. This has been proven in simulation after simulation. In most scenarios the Eagle and Hornet die before they even know the F-35 is there.

    Good Tactics and training on how to employ the F-35 or any other plane for that matter is critical if it is to perform its mission. You fight to its strengths and try to avoid its weaknesses. A classic example was the initial combat against the Japaneese Zero during WWII. The Zero was incredibly agile and maneuverable so generally you did not dog fight it head on in the traditional sense. You used the strengths of your aircraft like diving speed from above, built in toughness with self sealing gas tanks and other tactics and ingenuity to take away the Zeros advantage over its ability to out turn and out dogfight you. The Last time I checked, they lost. Fighting Russian and Chinese aircraft will require effective development of different tactics and training. For better or for worse this is ongoing.

    Another factor that should be considered is that allied nations flying the F-35 VTOL and carrier based variants can be re-armed, re-fueled, repaired, supported and fought from forward deployed Navy ships If required, a capability heretofore unknown with the exception of the Harrier.

    Much negotiation, discussion, planning and cooperation has gone into the JSF concept by many nations. It is not a perfect solution. We all know that a major driving factor is money. Ya just can't buy in quantity or quality what you don't have money to pay for. If the NATO alliance countries are going to fight together in times of great peril, compromises on all sides unfortunately have to be made.

    There is no question, that those that love freedom and liberty live in perilous times. Tough decisions have to be made and the F-35 could very well be a mistake, time will tell.

    The only other option is for those countries to go it alone and or develop proprietary weapon systems of their own providing they can find the fiscal means and more importantly the will to divert funds from social programs and invest more in their own defense. So far at least, this has not proven to be a viable solution, hence for better or for worse we have the JSF.
     
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    I am just imagining two f35`s using the Thatch weave on enemy fighters:) I only have three things to say, I dont know if you are familiar with all these old English sayings. Horses for courses, To many cooks spoil the broth and Jack of all trades and master of none.
     
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